G.M.B.
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Post by G.M.B. on Sept 18, 2009 6:55:35 GMT 10
Nicholas and members, Allan Cresswell has recently unearthed a connection with the Beigeorgi family in Perth, it appears that Theadora Beorgi migrated to Australia in 1924, with her son Xenophon. The name Beorgi is what is listed, but further research finds the same people listed as Beogeorgi which is closer. It states in papers that both could not read or write. so any change in their names may not be picked up by them. Allan thinks that Theodora may have been married to Mihail Beigeorgi. I do remember my father telling that we jhad cousins in Perth. apparently the above people also spent time in Darwin.
Nicholas is it possible to look at the dowries for Theodoras marraige, there is very little known about Mihail so anything would be a bonus. apparently the family may have also been known as Constantine ( a nickname/ or alias. )
I have checked phone records for any Beigeorgi connections without success . Is there anyone out there with any info on this branch , we wouild appreciate any tid bit.
Regards, George Bayss.
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Post by cressie on Sept 20, 2009 14:04:33 GMT 10
Hi George
I have located further info re this family. Xenophon Beorgi was also known as Con Constantine (an alias), he married an Aussie girl. He also had a brother in WA who was Con Constantine. Yes this is no mistake as I have checked the death notices. Con put in a death notice for his brother Xenophon (Con). The real Con married an Aussie girl also. A sister of them both, Zoe, married Pantazis Pantazis (aka Peter Stavros) in Geraldton WA. So it seems that Theodora came to WA as a widow to be with her children in Geraldton. When Zoe married her name was recorded as Zoe N Constantine suggesting that her father might have been named Nicholas or Nikitas and not Mihail.
Theodora died in Geraldton in 1965. I am checking with a few persons who are either related to the Pantazis family or were Cazzies living in Geraldton who may know some background on Theodora and her three children. Let you know any results. Nicholas Pappas also may have some info as you have suggested. I have access to parents names on the death indexes but only up to 1980. Zoe and Xenophon died after that date and I am checking into what happened to Con.
Best wishes
Allan
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G.M.B.
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Post by G.M.B. on Sept 21, 2009 7:00:55 GMT 10
Well done Allen,
You are obviously able to access more archives than I can .
your work is appreciated.
Yes, maybe Nicholas can shed some more light in the subject.
Regards, George Bayss.
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Post by Administrator on Sept 22, 2009 14:30:31 GMT 10
George,
Mihail Konstandinou Veorgis (spelt with a Greek 'B') married Theodora Konstandinou P Haitta on 11 February 1907.
The name Haitta is fairly obscure and there are only a few recorded examples of it. We do know that Theodora had a sister Evangelia (who married Paraskevas Apostolou Mayiafis in 1905), but we know little more about that family. It is also possible that Theodora's father, Konstandinos, had a brother Stavros.
Regarding the alternate spelling of 'Beorgis', it was not uncommon in Greek for 'Mp' to become 'V' - so 'Mpeorgis' became 'Veorgis', as is the case here. Interestingly, while Mihail signs with a 'x' (not uncommon), his witness (Ioannis Theoharis) writes Mihail's name in the more correct form despite the fact that the document is headed by the more colloquial spelling.
Nicholas
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Post by cressie on Sept 24, 2009 18:52:37 GMT 10
Hi Nicholas & George
Thanks for solving this, Nicholas. You have proved the connection which we suspected. Theodora's daughter was named Zoe so I knew there was a connection to George's family as that was the paternal grandmother's name for his family. Now to chase up any descendants in Perth and to document them. By the death notices I have searched there does not seem many children from the Beigeorgi (now Constantine) family in Perth. There is another large Constantine family here but seem unrelated.
Shows again how important the Dowry Contracts are. Great work.
Allan
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Alec
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Post by Alec on Sept 17, 2013 16:50:21 GMT 10
Hi All, I have a couple of photographs of a G. Canaris (probably George) which he sent from Brisbane in 1926 to my father's aunt and uncle, Eleni and Con Keletzis, who were living in Townsville at the time. From the photos he was a musician, how proficient I have no idea. Whether he knew the Keletzis's from Townsville or previously from Darwin or even before that, from Castellorizo, I don't know. The Keletzis's arrived in Darwin in 1917 and stayed there till 1920, when they moved to Townsville. He appears to be related to them as he addresses them as 'Aunt and Uncle' in the messages on the back of the photographs. I would be interested to know if anyone knows this man. I attach the photos. Double click on the photos for an enlarged view. I have sent copies separately to Nicholas and Allan Cresswell. They can be viewed on Allan's Cassie genealogy website on the page for George Lefkaritis. Alec Protos.
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Post by cressie on Sept 26, 2013 0:10:56 GMT 10
Hi Alec
This person I believe is George Paraschos Lefkaritis aka Canaris who died Townsville in 1927 the year after he sent the photos. He had arrived in WA on 25 May 1911 and returned to Port Said c1922 to marry Anastasia Patagnas. He was born on Castellorizo on 15 Dec 1876 and parents were Paraschos Lefkaritis and Kristalla (nee Karpouzis). I cannot see how he connects to your father's Aunt or Uncle but perhaps you can from info above.
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Alec
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Post by Alec on Oct 1, 2013 12:40:29 GMT 10
Hi Allan,
Thanks for your trouble in trying to identify the man in the photos in my above post.
You say you believe that this man is George Paraschos Lefkaritis aka Canaris, whose wedding photo you say, in your post on May 17 2007 above, that you have.
When checking this wedding photo on your Cassie genealogy website, the groom in this photo doesn't look anything like the man in my photos.
Alec.
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Post by Chrystal on Jun 20, 2014 20:10:57 GMT 10
Hi There,
I thought I'd show you what our great great grandmother Kristalla looked like when she was young :-) Uncanny resemblance don't you think. My name is Mrs Chrystal Elishua, formerly Lagos, I too had been looking into the history of my great great grandparents as I had some information given me by my grandmother Crystali (Dorothy) Canaris only daughter of John Canaris; my great grandfather. Unfortunately, the information about the ancestry of Bet George will be not possible to find as the turks trashed everything when they were in Greece of which our ancestors had to escape which was why the numerous name changes at the time. So from then on the name requires research into history and a bit of linguistics to ascertain the tribe that we belonged to pretty much before the turks. My grandmother conveyed to me many times the memories handed down to her of the disaster the turks had on our ancestors and others in Greece. So the ottomans did make a direct attempt to cut us off from our illustrious and powerful heritage.
In my historical research I discovered the coat of arms of the House of Geroge, the name Be or Pe comes from the Hebrew root word 'Bet or Ben' meaning family of, son of, or house of, so our tribe is of the House of George , yes, St George, who was from the town of Lud in Israel, so our roots are of the tribes of Israel. Yes, we have Hebrew roots, which is why the many name changes, obviously, living so close to turkey in both Cyprus and Kastelorizo. The original name would have been Ben George so my great grandfather Ioannis was of the House of George, as he had great wealth from trade by shipping throughout the Mediterranean. which was all confiscated by the turks when he was the first to flee and migrate to Perth, Australia, thereby making the provision to send for as many relatives as he could by diving for pearls thereby founding the pearling industry here at Broome, Western Australia.
He was also arranged to be married to his wife my great grandmother who was a Duchess of the Royal House of Greece, her maiden name being Chisafina Athanasiou. The connection to Egypt, was that one of her relatives, not to sure who that is as it will require research into Greek government records, so if anyone can provide further information, would be great. But I was told the niece I think my great grandmother, Ioannis wife, married the Greek Consul to Port Said in Egypt at the time, so the two families of my great grandparents PeGeorge (Lefkaritis) and Athanasiou intermixed. However, this Egyptian part of the family tribe could be investigated further as there should be some official government record of the Consul, probably around the late 1800s to early 1900s to 1920.
I have the family coat of arms of both the House of George and Athanasiou and I was told our tribe of Athanasiou is directly related to the Royal House of England, (my mother has a photo of her niece who married the Consul and she actually looks exactly like Queen Victoria but with blonde hair and blue eyes, my great grandmother and mother were also fair Greeks). The interesting thing about the House of Windsor is their family tree is traced back to the Royal House of King David of Israel through the House of George. Obviously this is why the old Greek families prefered to marry into their own tribes because they knew where their ancestors came from. So far I found Athanasiou originally came from Macedonia, then migrated to the Peloponnese (near Sparta) in the south, but George's ancestors were driven from Israel as part of the northern tribes diaspora to Georgia in the Caucasus, then from there to Greece and some back to Israel - Lud, but obviously to flee persecution down through the centuries, the connections to Cyprus, Kastelorizo, Egypt and Georgia is through trade in the mediterranean and the Black Sea. According to my grandmother her father had about a dozen tall ships at the time all confiscated by the turks. This has all been very interesting research and history for me and I continue to do my investigations because I driven to know since I married my husband who is an Orthodox Jew who believes in Jesus, so we are both Orthodox Christians so to speak :-) Greek and Jew so have been excited to know our family ancestry, heritage and history down through the ages back to our Hasmonean roots ...
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Post by Alec Protos on Apr 24, 2017 12:55:47 GMT 10
Re my post of 17 September 2013 with the 2 photos of "G. Canaris", the identity of the man is George Christopher Passaris. Apologies for the incorrect information. His family is well documented on Allan Cresswell's Cassie Genealogy website, www.castellorizo.org. There are photos there of his wedding, his sister Esodia"s wedding and other family photos. Alec Protos
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Post by Renee Zairis on Jun 25, 2021 21:48:33 GMT 10
Hello,
I am not sure how relevant this is to your thread, but this may be very relevant. My great great grandfather IS George Kavouras, the rebetiko music artist from Asia Minor. My father is Emmanual Zairis, and his mother is Garifalia Kavouras (maiden name, daughter of George Kavouras). My grandmother Garifalia, is originally from Athens (I was named after her mother Irene Kavouras), my name is Irene aka Renee (English name). George Kavouras has passed on his musical nature.. my grandmother, father and sister are all musicians and sing amazingly. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Renee Zairis
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