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Antonas
May 18, 2007 18:48:25 GMT 10
Post by Andoni on May 18, 2007 18:48:25 GMT 10
Hi all, I grew up hearing stories from my late Grandmother, Christina Antonas (nee Kiossoglou) about an ancestor, Dimitri Antonas, who resided in or had some connection with Myra in Asia Minor and the Church of Saint Nicholas (c.1850 but not too sure). If I recall correctly, the Church was destroyed and Dimitri Antonas had some connection either with it's discovery and/or restoration. He was recognised by the Ecumenical Patriarch in Constantinople at the time who awarded him with a Cross. As this was a story I grew up hearing about, I was very surprised to read a brief mention of it in a book I purchased on Kastellorizo last year titled "Eklisies kai Monastiria tou Kastellorizou" by Kyriakos Hondros (pgs 178-181). If anyone knows more about this story, or other stories about Dimitri Antonas I would be delighted if you could share. Thanks, Anthony Antonas Sydney
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Antonas
Jun 4, 2007 19:10:01 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Jun 4, 2007 19:10:01 GMT 10
Anthony,
I have no information specific to the Dimitrios Antonas you refer to. However, there are 3 persons with that name listed in the index to the dowry archive. Their details are as follows:
Dimitrios Y D Antonas, who married Anna Konst Kambaliou in October 1903;
Dimitrios K D Antonas, who married Anna Ev N Stamatoglou in April 1907; and
Dimitrios N Antonas, who married Diamantoula K Magripli in January 1913.
I don't know if you are connected to any of these individuals, but I would guess that the first two, and quite possibly all three, are the grandsons of the Dimitrios you refer to.
If more information comes to light, I will post it here for you.
Nicholas
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Antonas
Jun 9, 2007 14:40:47 GMT 10
Post by Andoni on Jun 9, 2007 14:40:47 GMT 10
Hi Nicholas,
Thanks for these names. I've gone back to what I've already collated and I can confirm that all 3 are the grandsons of Dimitrios Antonas. Since the original post I've discovered a little more....
Dimitri Antonas was married to Anna ?. He died at sea between Castellorizo and Rhodes. He had 7 children, which included 5 sons, Andona (married to ? Stenou), Mihali (killed), Nikolaos (married to ?Xilagorou), Kostas (married to ? Hatzipalassis) & Yeorgos (married to ? Barboutis).
Yeorgos, Kostas & Nikolaos were the fathers of the above 3 names you mentioned.
If anyone has any further information to add please do.
Anthony
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Antonas
Oct 18, 2007 10:06:57 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 18, 2007 10:06:57 GMT 10
Anthony,
I've stumbled on an obscure Turkish document from 1831 that makes reference to Dimitrios Antonas. It's a formal construction permit of the mutasarrif (governor) of the santzak (district) of Rhodes under which Castellorizo then fell.
A rough translation is as follows:
Most glorious, most eminent and elder master Hasan Beis, mutasarrif of the santzak of Rhodes, lord of the royal Imareti and great minister of the imperial throne.
To our local agha Mehmet on the island of Castellorizon, and to all the notables and the residents, great and small, by virtue of our authority we give permission to Dimitri H'Antona to build, whenever he desires, a house in the place near the sea, below the house of his sister Maria, and next to the house of Tsopanis, such land already being under his power as his inseparable property, to be bothered by no-one, and we order you that no-one is to disturb him, neither Turk nor Christian, because he is the rightful owner and may do with it as he wishes. 26 July 1831, From the governate
This is a fairly standard construction permit from this period, but is a fascinating insight into the surprisingly efficient building controls that existed in the Ottoman Empire at this time.
I hope it adds another piece to the puzzle.
Nicholas
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Antonas
Oct 18, 2007 14:54:28 GMT 10
Post by G.M.B. on Oct 18, 2007 14:54:28 GMT 10
Nicholas, well done with the building permission. where did you find such a gem. it reads like something straight out of the movies with such elegant titles and respect.
regards, George
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Antonas
Oct 20, 2007 21:54:49 GMT 10
Post by Andoni on Oct 20, 2007 21:54:49 GMT 10
Thanks Nicholas!
Although a standard buidling permit of the time, still an amazing document and thanks for the translation!
I am slowly putting more pieces of the puzzle together and will continue to post on castellorizohistory.com
Regards, Anthony
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Antonas
Dec 10, 2009 16:21:33 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Dec 10, 2009 16:21:33 GMT 10
Anthony,
You referred above to Dimitrios Antonas' connection to Myra and, in particular, to the church of St Nicholas there.
An obscure article I have found includes a series of letters addressed to him (described as epistatis of the church), and to his son Yeorgios, in the context of works done in and around the church and tomb of St Nicholas in the second half of the 19th century.
One document lists a number of transactions between 1860 and 1862. Another is a letter to him from 1867 and relates to dealings that occurred at the time with Russian authorities who had acquired large tracts of land around the monastery. Another is a letter from the then Russian consul in Rhodes who was involved in these works, and there is also correspondence with the then mayor of Castellorizo, Dimitrios Papalazaros, and the Metropolitan of Pissideia (Kaisarios) regarding a dispute about who had authority over the site.
From these letters it is possible to deduce that Dimitrios died in 1867.
Let me know if you want to see a copy of the article.
Nicholas
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Antonas
Jan 3, 2010 19:55:17 GMT 10
Post by Andoni on Jan 3, 2010 19:55:17 GMT 10
Hi Nicholas,
Thank you for your post and information about Dimitrios Antonas and the church of St Nicholas in Myra. I would love to see a copy of the article if possible. My email address is: antonas@tpg.com.au
Many thanks, Anthony
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Antonas
Jan 18, 2010 12:11:53 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Jan 18, 2010 12:11:53 GMT 10
Anthony,
I have e-mailed you today an extract from the piece I refer to above.
There are more extracts, if you want to see them. Let me know after you have read this first section.
Regards, Nicholas
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Antonas
Feb 24, 2018 16:20:36 GMT 10
Post by Jessica.rogers@anu.edu.au on Feb 24, 2018 16:20:36 GMT 10
Anthony, You referred above to Dimitrios Antonas' connection to Myra and, in particular, to the church of St Nicholas there. An obscure article I have found includes a series of letters addressed to him (described as epistatis of the church), and to his son Yeorgios, in the context of works done in and around the church and tomb of St Nicholas in the second half of the 19th century. One document lists a number of transactions between 1860 and 1862. Another is a letter to him from 1867 and relates to dealings that occurred at the time with Russian authorities who had acquired large tracts of land around the monastery. Another is a letter from the then Russian consul in Rhodes who was involved in these works, and there is also correspondence with the then mayor of Castellorizo, Dimitrios Papalazaros, and the Metropolitan of Pissideia (Kaisarios) regarding a dispute about who had authority over the site. From these letters it is possible to deduce that Dimitrios died in 1867. Let me know if you want to see a copy of the article. Nicholas Dear Antonas, My great Pop was the son of Constantine Apostolos Papalazaros. I am very interested in any documents you have from the mayor Papalazaros. Please email me if you can at jessica.rogers@anu.edu.au Kind regards Jessica
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