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Gravas
Jul 25, 2007 14:48:29 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Jul 25, 2007 14:48:29 GMT 10
Levis, Thank you for posting the wedding photo of your great grandparents Markos Evangelou Gravas and Asimina Efstathiou Palassi on the following link: picasaweb.google.com/levissi5/KastellorizoWeddingPhotosIn answer to your request, I am able to identify the following people based on your numbering of them: 2. Christodoulos Konstandinou (doctor) 6. Kyriakos Gonios 8. Apostolos Nikandros (priest) 9. Kostas Papastefanou (priest) 11. Andreas Amygdalos/Nouris ('o Vasilias') 12. Evangelos Gravas ('o Syrianos') 13. Kostas Passaris 16. Christodoulos Passaris (municipal policeman) 20. Marigo Dimitriou Hatziyiannaki (nee Kypreou) 27. Anastasia Pallara 28. Chrysanthe Stavrianou 29. Katina Yeorgiou Grava 32. Yeorgios Evangelou Gravas 33. Markos Evangelou Gravas 34. Asimina Efstathiou Palassi 35. Efstathios Nikolaou Palassis 36. Nikolaos Hatziyiannakis 37. Irini Passari 38. Christina Stavrianou 39. Magdalene Sehopoulou (nee Barboutti) 42. Kyriaki Passari That's about all I have located to date. I have only listed people that I am reasonably certain of. By the way, the precise date of the wedding was 1 September 1929. I will modify this post as more people are identified. Nicholas
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Gravas
Jun 5, 2007 19:14:00 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Jun 5, 2007 19:14:00 GMT 10
Levis posted this message about the Gravas family on the Photography board:
Does anyone know anything about Evangelos Gravas (o' Syrianos)? He is my Great Great Grandfather and I wanted to know some info about him.
Cheers levis
Evangelos Gravas was known as 'o Syrianos' because he was born on the island of Syros.
His son Yeorgios migrated to Australia and was prominent in the Sydney Castellorizian community. Another son, Markos, married Asimina Emm. Palassi on Castellorizo in 1929.
A daughter, Christina, married Ioannis V Smaragdas in 1911, while another daughter, Chrisafina, married Ioannis Hatzistavrianou Karalenis in 1914.
There should be others on this Forum who know more about Evangelos' life. Hopefully, they will be able to give you more information.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 2, 2007 15:57:51 GMT 10
My grandfather was Emmanuel Spyro Halikis, who migrated to the USA in 1922 after time in Brazil (1913) and Australia (1916-1922). He later remigrated to Australia in 1947 with my mother, Mary (married to Con Bogiatzis), born in New Brighton, and son Spyro now in Perth (married to Mary Kailis). Emmanuel was joining his older brother Nick (aka Manettas). The Halikis family name was originally Zistis. While recognizing Anglophone spelling can be difficult, any chance of finding Halikis, Chalikis (?), Zistis in your research, or directions on how to interrogate the data set? many thanks, Nick Nick, I assume from your post that you might have missed the 2 Halikis entries under 'Callichi' in Allan's list above. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 27, 2007 20:11:10 GMT 10
Allan,
This is a most useful collation of some of the early Castellorizian arrivals in the USA. Thank you for sharing your good work with us.
I have taken the liberty of adding in brackets and italics the more common version of the surname where that name has been so corrupted as to be almost unrecognisable. I have only done this where I am fairly certain of the correct surname in each such case.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 23, 2007 17:00:19 GMT 10
Dear Alexi, In reply to your post, I am pleased to report that in my archive there is a copy of a letter (from Italian archives in Rome) from your great grandfather Spyros to the Italian authorities in Rome. Click the link below to view. www.castellorizohistory.com/SpyridesletterMoukden1929.pdfThe letter makes fascinating reading. It was written by him in Moukden (modern Shenyang, China) on 2 October 1929 in his attempt to gain Italian citizenship so as to permit him free movement and eventual return to Castellorizo. He recounts that he was born in 1883, that he travelled first to Egypt and then to Russia, where he was caught in the Russian Revolution, and that he eventually ended up in China. I trust you find this document a useful addition to your knowledge about your forebears. Rgds, Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 23, 2007 16:59:48 GMT 10
The following was posted in the 'Photos of life on Castellorizo' thread - a new thread is provided for ease of reference: NICK I TOOK YOUR ADVICE AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME IM STILL LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND PHOTOS ABOUT MY SPYIDIS FAMILY I WISH I DID THIS WHEN MY FATHER WAS AROUND, IT WOULD OF BEEN GREAT TO SHARE THIS WITH SOME ONE THAT I CAN RELATE THIS TO, ALSO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EASIER TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY PAST FAMILY SPEAK SOON REGARDS ALEXI
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Post by Administrator on May 22, 2007 18:10:18 GMT 10
The following was posted in the 'History: events and memories' thread - a new thread is provided for ease of reference: I have read many books on the war of 1922. I like many others lost my grandfather and mother her father. She was too young to understand and I never asked those important questions, at that time. Now I am trying to fill the vacant spots in the family tree. My grandmother was Evangelia Koutoupe and married Vassilis Yanglitzis.
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Marcou
May 25, 2007 12:29:27 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on May 25, 2007 12:29:27 GMT 10
Dear Emmanuel,
From the outline you have provided I would suggest that your father and his family probably left the island in the exodus of 1917-1918 when the island was actually under French naval occupation. A large number of Castellorizian families departed during this period amidst great secrecy, not so much because of any restrictions imposed by the French, but rather because of the fear of Turkish bombardment from the Anatolian coast.
A number of these familes ended up in Crete, but some travelled as far as the Greek mainland. Do you know where precisely your family travelled to in Greece?
The French authorities on Castellorizo were promising these emigres work in France and that is probably why your grandfather ended up in St Etienne. A number of other Castellorizian families settled in France for this reason, particularly in Nantes.
So far, I have only located one reference to your family in French archives, and it does seem to accord with your comments. In the list of 46 Castellorizians who took part in the successful offensive against Turkish-held Antifilo on 27 January 1916 the name Costas Marcou appears. I wonder if this is your grandfather's brother?
I'll let you know if anything else comes up.
Nicholas
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Marcou
May 19, 2007 18:31:43 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on May 19, 2007 18:31:43 GMT 10
The following was posted in the 'Welcome' thread - a new thread is provided for ease of reference: I have only just become aware of this Forum & site through an E-Mail I received today. Although I have been to Cassie just 5 years ago,I was very impressed,both by the enchantment of the Harbour & remoteness from the Greek mainland. My father and his family managed to secret themselves out of the island,which at that time was an Italian mandate.They had to leave by night in a small sailboat and managed with a great deal of adventure to reach the Greek mainland. One of his uncles,Dimitrios,made notoriety by leading a party of Cassie merchants to the Turkish mainland and saving them from being murdered by Turkish brigands living in the nearby mountains.They returned unharmed. His other uncles worked together felling trees on the Turkish mainland and transporting them bach to Cassie for shipbuilding & manufacture of coak. My paternal Great grandfather was called Markos Alvanos,this being a nickname because he originated from Epirus near Ioannina,and was a Vestmaker for Ali Pasha. These a some of the stories handed down to me by my father before he passed away in 1979. Emmanuel Marcou. (emmanuel2aus@yahoo.com.au)
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Post by Administrator on May 21, 2007 9:42:34 GMT 10
Con,
Your grandmother was right (they usually are!) - your grandfather was described as 'Konstandinos Nikolaou Tsaimanis' on his wedding contract from February 1912. Interestingly, he signed with his correct surname 'Apoifis'.
I will see what I can find on the origin of the name 'Tsaimanis'. The only connection I can think of is the Turkish word cam (pronounced 'cham') which means fir or pine tree. These were the species of tree felled by the Castellorizians for conversion to charcoal. A caman was someone who dealt in timber and this was probably corrupted to tsaimanis in Greek.
I'll let you know if something else comes up.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 19, 2007 18:26:43 GMT 10
The following was posted in the 'Welcome' thread - a new thread is provided for ease of reference: I have traced my family back to my fathers grandfather, and I have found that we are related to the Papalazaros clan and that my fathers grandmother was born in Crete. I wonder if any one can help further. Also my grandmother (Irene Apoifis) nee Barbayiannis did tell me that some people called our family, Tsaimantsi as my grandfather brought timber from a Turkish island back to Castellorizzo. Would appreciate any info. Thanks Con Apoifis
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Post by Administrator on May 19, 2007 12:48:23 GMT 10
Brian,
A terrific post that sums up beautifully what this Forum and website are all about.
The fact that we have made contact with you in Belgium is evidence enough of the value of communicating through the internet on matters related to our fragile Castellorizian legacy and the ways with which we can best preserve it.
Thank you again for your support.
Nicholas
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Antonas
Oct 18, 2007 10:06:57 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 18, 2007 10:06:57 GMT 10
Anthony,
I've stumbled on an obscure Turkish document from 1831 that makes reference to Dimitrios Antonas. It's a formal construction permit of the mutasarrif (governor) of the santzak (district) of Rhodes under which Castellorizo then fell.
A rough translation is as follows:
Most glorious, most eminent and elder master Hasan Beis, mutasarrif of the santzak of Rhodes, lord of the royal Imareti and great minister of the imperial throne.
To our local agha Mehmet on the island of Castellorizon, and to all the notables and the residents, great and small, by virtue of our authority we give permission to Dimitri H'Antona to build, whenever he desires, a house in the place near the sea, below the house of his sister Maria, and next to the house of Tsopanis, such land already being under his power as his inseparable property, to be bothered by no-one, and we order you that no-one is to disturb him, neither Turk nor Christian, because he is the rightful owner and may do with it as he wishes. 26 July 1831, From the governate
This is a fairly standard construction permit from this period, but is a fascinating insight into the surprisingly efficient building controls that existed in the Ottoman Empire at this time.
I hope it adds another piece to the puzzle.
Nicholas
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Antonas
Jun 4, 2007 19:10:01 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Jun 4, 2007 19:10:01 GMT 10
Anthony,
I have no information specific to the Dimitrios Antonas you refer to. However, there are 3 persons with that name listed in the index to the dowry archive. Their details are as follows:
Dimitrios Y D Antonas, who married Anna Konst Kambaliou in October 1903;
Dimitrios K D Antonas, who married Anna Ev N Stamatoglou in April 1907; and
Dimitrios N Antonas, who married Diamantoula K Magripli in January 1913.
I don't know if you are connected to any of these individuals, but I would guess that the first two, and quite possibly all three, are the grandsons of the Dimitrios you refer to.
If more information comes to light, I will post it here for you.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Mar 17, 2008 7:54:28 GMT 10
Zowie/George,
In Turkish, 'bey' means 'Mr' or even 'gentleman'. It is usually added after the name, not before it - ie 'Mustafa Bey' - when it is being used as 'Mr'.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 21, 2007 16:52:55 GMT 10
These photos and the accompanying captions were sent to the Castellorizo Forum by Vassilis Nikolaras of Athens, Greece and include members of the Canaris/Karastathis/Lefkaritis families. This photo was taken in Port Fouad (Egypt) in 1935, at Karastathi's house. From left are: Paraschos, Kostandinos, Eleni (my mother), Vassilis (the father), Cristina Karastathi-Lefkariti (the mother), Krystallo. Sitting is Vassili's mother Hatzeleni with Chrissanthi.
The photo was taken on 08-11-1940 at Port-Foauad (Egypt) of Vassilis Karastathis (my grand father) and myself at 6 months of age (Vassilis Nikolaras).
This photo was taken on 10-08-1955 at Rhodos. From left to right: Ilias (Theofilou?), Michalis Canaris, Evangelia, daughter of Ilia, Alafandiani (sister of Evangelia?) and Ilias' wife. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 17, 2007 8:06:54 GMT 10
Zowie,
The dowry archive contains two Beigeorgi weddings, both from April 1901. They are:
Yeorgios Konstandinou Beigeorgi who married Papadia P Karavelatzi on 8 April 1901; and
Triantafylia Konstandinou Beigeorgi (his sister) who married Ioannis Theoharis in 1903.
As far as the Lefkaritis name is concerned, there is only one entry - for a Christina Paraschou Lefkariti (your g'granfather's daughter, I assume) who married Vassilis Karastathis in 1912. Their contract also refers to the bride's brother, Ioannis Paraschou Lefkaritis, given that the father, Paraschos, had already died at that time.
Hope this helps, Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on May 16, 2007 16:44:38 GMT 10
Allan,
Thanks very much for the offer of assistance on this one.
Yes, I would be grateful if you could assist. I'm particularly interested to know what links, if any, Konstandinos's family in WA had with Stamati's family in Greece and what they knew, or were told, about the performer (their first cousin), Yeorgios Kavouras. As you might know, he is still considered one of the finest ever exponents of rebetiko song and was venerated by none other than the great Markos Vamvakaris in one of his own compositions.
Thanks again for helping out.
Nicholas, Sydney
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Post by Administrator on May 16, 2007 14:30:58 GMT 10
I am looking for anyone with links to the Kavouras clan. This family was originally from Livisi in Asia Minor, but moved to Castellorizo from as early as 1906.
Yeorgios Kavouras (the earliest I can trace) had at least 9 children, 6 girls and 3 boys in the second half of the nineteenth century. One of his sons, Konstandinos, married Chrisafina Antoniou Gemenis. Another son was named Dimitrios. The third son, Stamati, married Garyfalia Beigeorgi who hailed from Kalamaki, also in Asia Minor. The first son of this union, Yeorgios, became a famous (and widely-recorded) rebetiko artist in Athens before WWII, but died at the age of 36 in 1943. I believe his own son still lives in Melbourne and was for many years a musical performer himself.
Any information about the Kavouras family, and its links to other Castellorizian families, would be appreciated.
Nicholas, Sydney
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Welcome
Feb 15, 2008 16:25:07 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Feb 15, 2008 16:25:07 GMT 10
Giorgos,
I am interested to hear more from you about the circumstances of your grandparents' departure from Castellorizo and their migration to Marseilles.
Do you know when precisely they departed the island? And the reasons for their travel? Did your grandfather travel first alone? What work did he do on his arrival in France?
I'd also like to know the names of your grandfather's siblings (brothers and sisters), if indeed you know them.
I look forward to hearing from you again and take this opportunity to thank you for your kind words about the Forum.
Nicholas
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Welcome
Oct 31, 2007 9:42:28 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 31, 2007 9:42:28 GMT 10
Vanessa,
I have started a new thread for your great grandparents and posted a reply there.
Nicholas
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Welcome
Oct 27, 2007 8:28:12 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 27, 2007 8:28:12 GMT 10
Nick,
I'll look into it and get back to you on this Forum with new information very soon. Please keep a look out for new (or existing) threads under those family names you mention.
In the meantime, you may also care to become a member - it's free and makes communication much easier.
Nicholas
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Welcome
Oct 7, 2007 16:38:56 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 7, 2007 16:38:56 GMT 10
George,
Yes, it is - there are so many ways to transliterate Greek names into English that variations such as this one were inevitable.
What is clear here is that the variant 'Kootsookos' was used by this particular Castellorizian from the moment of his arrival, probably because the officer writing the name down on arrival thought such a spelling closest to what he heard. Alternatively, and depending on the travel document he was presented with (if any), the spelling could have its origins in its place of issue.
Perhaps Sam could tell us more when she accesses the files?
I will open a separate thread for Koutsoukos/Kootsookos to encourage others to contribute.
Nicholas
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Welcome
Oct 7, 2007 11:26:17 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Oct 7, 2007 11:26:17 GMT 10
Sam,
From the record search I have quickly done with National Archives (www.naa.gov.au), it appears that there are at least three files on your grandfather, who is described as 'Jack Antoniou Kootsookos', in their holdings.
The first two are his alien registration files from the WWI period when all 'aliens' were required to go through a cumbersome registration process that monitored their movements in the Commonwealth. His first place of registration is recorded in the index as Paraparap in the Northern Territory.
The third file is his naturalisation file from around 1922.
You can order copies of these three files by visiting the website. They may be ordered in digital or hard copy format. They should provide you with a lot of new information about your grandfather's early days in Australia.
I'll also check to see if there are any records of your family in the dowry archive.
Nicholas
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Welcome
Sept 4, 2007 8:17:35 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on Sept 4, 2007 8:17:35 GMT 10
Sharon,
I have started a new thread for your query regarding the Kiozelis/Omeros marriage.
Nicholas
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Welcome
May 10, 2007 15:05:21 GMT 10
Post by Administrator on May 10, 2007 15:05:21 GMT 10
One important feature of the Castellorizo Forum will be this genealogy board, the aim of which will be to provide members with a convenient way of sharing, and accessing, genealogical information about Castellorizo.
The most accessible source of genealogical information is popular memory which carries with it, from generation to generation, knowledge of family relationships. It is a valuable, yet fragile, source of information and its reliability fades as each generation passes. One aim of the Castellorizo Forum will be to enable memory of family linkages to be recorded and shared so that this critical reservoir of information becomes accessible for a new generation of Castellorizians.
Another source of genealogical information on the extensive family networks of the island is the collection of five surviving volumes of dowry contracts that span the period 1895-1930. These record, with considerable detail, nearly all of the marriages conducted on the island in this period. While conveniently spanning the Ottoman, Greek, French and Italian chapters of the island's early twentieth century history, they also preserve the terms upon which property was conveyed through marriage during these turbulent times. As such, they serve as an invaluable tool for the gathering of genealogical information on the residents of Castellorizo during this period.
We also have at our disposal a large collection of other archival documents sourced from across the globe that add to the genealogical pool of knowledge on Castellorizo's population. Added to these is the considerable work already done by a number of private researchers who have compiled their own family trees and collated significant information about a number of the island's clans.
Contributors to the Castellorizo Forum are encouraged to share their ancestral knowledge and exchange information that might assist others to expand their own understanding of their familial links to the island.
Please feel free to post your comments and/or questions. With the co-operation of all involved we will hopefully assist each other to trace our respective roots back to Castellorizo and thereby increase our knowledge of the experiences of those who came before us.
Nicholas Pappas, Sydney
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