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Post by Administrator on Nov 19, 2008 6:37:55 GMT 10
Allan,
Thanks - I use 'Paint' to add the names to the images - it's very easy to use.
If you e-mail me the names, I'll add them.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 18, 2008 9:51:03 GMT 10
Allan, I have dated the wedding and identified most of those present. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 17, 2008 8:03:01 GMT 10
Thanks to the generosity of Evdokia Karpathiou, I am posting a charming photograph of a boys' gymnastics class from 1928. Members are encouraged to seek out the names of the boys pictured. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 16, 2008 7:40:29 GMT 10
Cristian,
A wonderful photo - one I certainly haven't seen before.
I have re-sized it in your post.
The hunt for names begins...!
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 14, 2008 17:03:34 GMT 10
Michael,
That's great - I will add his name.
Spread the word!
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 14, 2008 14:00:43 GMT 10
Allan, Here are as many names as I can find - thanks also to the good detective work of Senya Kranitis on this one. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 14, 2008 6:40:45 GMT 10
Cristian, You need to use an image upload service to upload the image from your computer to the Forum. Try using www.imageshack.us which is a free service. Follow the instructions and then cut and paste the code they give you for forums in to the text of your your post where you want the photo to appear. Good luck with it and please let me know if you have any problems. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 13, 2008 14:49:39 GMT 10
Allan,
This is the wedding of Nikolaos Konstandinou Apoifis and Irini Ilia Lakerdi held on 4 December 1949.
I will post the names of those pictured soon.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 13, 2008 13:26:37 GMT 10
Allan, A difficult one! Children are hard to identify at the best of times, let alone when they're in fancy dress. I have identified three of the adults: Spyros Diamandaras was the nephew of the island's great chronicler and former headmaster, Achilleas Diamandaras, and he, too, taught for many years in the Santrapeia school. Kleovoulos Piangos was an archimandrite from Rhodes who served as a teacher on the island between 1924-1926 and again between 1928-1930. He was noted for his austerity and his habit of knocking on the doors of families whose children were late for school! Ioannis Valsamides worked for many years in the administration of the boys' school on the island. Based on those identified, and the 'AGAPATE ALLILOUS' ('Love one another') sign, I would date the photo at early to mid 1929. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 12, 2008 7:38:45 GMT 10
Allan, A terrific photo - here it is with as many names as I can fit! Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 10, 2008 16:57:07 GMT 10
Allan,
By all means, post as many as you like and I will do the best I can to identify those pictured!
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 10, 2008 12:23:58 GMT 10
Allan, Here is the same image with some names that I have based on my interview of John Hatziyiannakis here in Sydney before he passed away. The priest in the centre is Simeon Alexiou. Note especially the prevalence of the Ottoman fez among the males prior to the 1913 revolution and the presence at rear of Turkish constabulary, possibly because the Ottoman kaimakam (governor) was among the invited guests. In fact, based on other images we have of him, he may be the gentleman behind the groom with beard and necktie. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Nov 7, 2008 11:08:56 GMT 10
George,
The two structures on the islet known as Psoradhia just off the shore from the Kavos promontory are the remains of two fuel dumps that were used by the Italians, and then the British, before and during the Second World War.
Prior to the War, fuel was stored here for the seaplanes that used the island as a stopover (see separate thread). During the War, fuel was stored here for military vessels that used the island's harbour as a base.
The derivation of the name Psoradhia lies in the fact that the islet was used in the 19th century as a quarantine for those suffering from 'scabies', a highly contagious and serious skin disorder that was common among those travelling by sea.
Like in the Mandraki area, there is some evidence around Psoradhia of early human settlement, much of it now beneath the water as sea levels have risen over the centuries. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 30, 2008 13:27:08 GMT 10
Cristian,
From the limited records I have, I tend to think you're right. It appears relatively clear that Diamandaras was the name of the 'father' of the clan and that his son Spyros (Spyridon) named his own first-born son after him.
Please note, however, that the names Diamandaras/Diomantaras/Diomataris etc are all the same name. As you know, there were hardly any formal surnames used in the 18th and 19th centuries. Rather, people were called by their first name to which one added either their father's name (as in 'Spyros Diamandaras' or 'Kostas Spyrides'), their place of origin (Roditis, Kotis, Kritikos, Amoryianos etc) or even their trade or a physical description. These often became the accepted surname over time, but sometimes it remained just a paratsoukli (nickname), especially when there was a perjorative or unflattering connotation to the name.
Gradually, many of these names were corrupted and became quite different from their original form: hence 'Diomataris' from the more correct 'Diamandaras'.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 28, 2008 8:23:15 GMT 10
Eva,
Thank you for your post.
From what I have heard, a DVD of the film being shown in the Museum is not currently available, though there are thoughts about releasing it for sale next year...
If you read the introduction to the Genealogy Board, you will see that we have here a complete copy of the dowry contracts you refer to. They are currently being indexed with a view to their details being published (in English) at some point in time. In the meantime, if there is any particular contract/marriage within this period (1895-1930) you seek information on, please let me know and I'll see if it is there.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 22, 2008 9:39:38 GMT 10
George,
As is the case in many of these school photos, the ages of the students seem to differ. In this photo, some of the younger boys appear to be as young as 7 or 8, while the older boys (to the right and at the rear) appear to be as old as 12 or 13.
I believe the reason for this is that teachers were photographed together with all the boys they taught in different classes. The same appears to be the case in the photos of the female classes currently featured in the Forum.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 18, 2008 13:11:42 GMT 10
Here is a photo extract from the commemorative programme of the Castellorizian Benevolent Society of America Ball held in New York in 1948. Those pictured are the members of the then committee of the Society. For those who cannot read Greek, their names are: From left to right, seated: Moschos A. Paraskevas, Nikolas Karazepounis, Andreas Mihalakis, Athanasios Tsakounis, Sotirios I. Sotirakis. Standing: Yeorgios Sotirakis, Christos A. Christou, Emm. Kailis, Antonios Kyprios, Konstandinos S. Passaris, Antonios P. Papantoniou. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 15, 2008 17:21:11 GMT 10
Here is another charming school photo, this time of teacher Triantafylia Agapitou with her class on the steps of the Santrapeia School in 1931. I have attempted to identify a number of the girls, some only by their surnames. Hopefully, the remaining few will also be identified as more visit the Forum. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 11, 2008 15:14:02 GMT 10
Michael, Thaks for posting this wonderful wedding photograph. I hope that others follow your lead with their own photos! I have taken the liberty of reproducing the photo here with numbers over each person pictured: The persons I have identified to date, adding to those you have already identified for us, are as follows: 1. 2. Antonis Mihalakis 3. 4. Ioannis M. Stamatoglou 5. Mihalis N Stamatoglou 6. Mihalis I Koutsoukos 7. Venedictos M Livissianis 8. Stamatis M Stamatoglou 9. 10. 11. Polixeni (Xenia) M. Stamatoglou (nee Koutsoukou) 12. Konstandinia Kyr. Hondrou 13. Michalis Kyr. Hondros 14. 15. 16. 17. Ioannis M. Koutsoukos 18. 19. 20. 21. Nikolas M. Stamatoglou 22. Eleni I. Koutsoukou (nee Hatzimihalaki) 23. 24. 25. Dimitris I Koutsoukos (groom) 26. Panagiota Y Christofi (bride) 27. ? Moschos 28. 29. 30. 31. Simeon Alexiou (priest) 32. Kyriaki Y Christofi 33. 34. Apostolos Nikandros (priest) 35. 36. Malaxoudia M Koutsoukou 37. 38. 39. Irini Pan. Fermani 40. 41. Kostas Papastefanou (priest) 42. Vartholomeos Pissas (priest) 43. 44. Agapitos Y Fermanis 45. Mihalis Stav. Spartalis 46. Antonis Stav. Exintaris 47. 48. 49. 50. 51. 52. Maria Kyr. Hondrou 53. 54. Eleni M. Koutsoukou From the dowry records, we are able to confirm the date of the wedding as 24 July 1927. If people are able to identify more of the people pictured, they should post the details below and I will modify this post with the new information. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 9, 2008 13:54:50 GMT 10
Joey,
No, they aren't. The originals are kept in Rhodes by the lawyer assigned by the Nomarch of the Dodecanese to hold the registry of title deeds for the island.
As explained in the 'Welcome' thread on the Genelogy Board, we have copies of the 5 surviving volumes here in Sydney, should particular contracts be of interest to direct family members.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 8, 2008 15:07:25 GMT 10
Thank you for this interesting post to which I can add a little.
The fascinating story of Savvas Nikolaou Savvas and his pioneering travels to the South American continent are told in a wonderful (Portuguese) text written by Paschoal Apostolo Pitsica and published by the Greek community of Santa Catarina in 2003 under the title Memoria visual da Colonia Grega de Florianopolis.
Even without a knowledge of Portuguese, this illustrated book is a very useful resource for those seeking out the families from Castellorizo who made Santa Catarina their home in the footsteps of Savvas Savvas.
Among the more interesting personalities listed in the book is Jorge Cominu Lacerda (Yeorgios Komninou Lakerdis), the nephew of the island's prominent freedom fighter and (later) mayor, who became governor of Santa Catarina in 1955, only to die tragically in a plane crash two years later.
Details of the Greek community organisation in Florianopolis are as follows:
Associacao Helenica de Santa Catarina Rua Tenente Silveira, 494-88015-301 Florianopolis, SC Brazil
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 7, 2008 14:31:30 GMT 10
Dear frankpaul,
It would be great to hear if any of your family members in Alabama or elsewhere in the States have any old Castellorizian Ball programmes.
I am paticularly interested in programmes from the early years of the Society's existence in the USA.
Please do let me know if any come your way.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jul 3, 2008 17:18:18 GMT 10
Joey,
All the spellings you mention are correct, but I think that a more 'correct' transliteration from the Greek would perhaps be 'Mystillis' or 'Mystilis' given the use in Greek of the 'ypsilon' in the first syllable of the name. Nevertheless, the spelling of Greek names is very fluid thing and there is really no 'correct' version.
There are a few dowry entries for your family. The double wedding of Evangelos (Angelo) and Vasilios on 16 June 1929 (to Evdokia Pandeli Vdelopoulou & Evdokia Paraskeva Triantafylli respectively) is recorded there, as are the earlier marriages of Salipa's sisters Kyranna, Christina & Evangelia (between 1904-1911). The wedding of Salipa's step-daughter Chrysi (also in 1911) is also there.
I am sure others have more to contribute, especially the members of the Mistillis family here in Sydney.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 21, 2008 11:31:06 GMT 10
stefanc,
Can you please give me your aunt's details: maiden name, year of birth on Castellorizo, date of arrival in Australia and family disposition?
I would very much like to hear any stories she recalls from her experiences on the island.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 19, 2008 17:30:08 GMT 10
One of the more interesting photographic records left behind by Castellorizo's twentieth century occupiers is the wide array of postcards that were produced and distributed by them to promote the island. France first, and then Italy, both used the popular and expanding format of the postcard to disseminate images of the island and these represent today a valuable record of events on the island and of its changing landscape during the tumultuous first half of the twentieth century. The postcards produced by the French navy during its occupation of Castellorizo between 1915-1921 deal predominantly with the hostilities of the period when the island became a staging post for French operations in the eastern Mediterranean. As they were designed to demonstrate French might, the postcards are largely representations of the military strength of the French forces. One of the most common postcards of the period is the one that shows the French warships Jeanne d'Arc and Amiral Charner in the harbour of Castellorizo on the first morning of the occupation, 28 December 1915: The far longer period of occupation by Italy between 1921-1943, combined with Italy's greater appetite for colonial expansion under Benito Mussolini, led to a far broader series of postcard issues that ranged from traditional views of the island to images of the public buildings erected by the Italian regime and even the scenes of devastation that gripped the island in the aftermath of the 1926 earthquake. An example is shown here: Members of the Castellorizo Forum who have access to other postcards from these periods are encouraged to display them here. Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 18, 2008 13:50:29 GMT 10
In 1926, the Castellorizian Benevolent Society of America was established in New York by a group of newly-arrived Castellorizians which included Andreas K Mihalakis, Athanasios K Tsakounis, Nikolaos Y Karazepounis and Moschos A Paraskevas.
With increasing Castellorizian arrivals, the Society prospered and among its many activities was an annual ball which was held each year in the Manhattan Centre in NYC. The Castellorizo Forum has recently obtained a copy of the Society's ball programme from 1948.
This is a lavish publication and, at over 120 pages, is a useful record of Castellorizian presence in the United States at that time. Messages of support included in the programme come from as far afield as Muskegon, Michigan (the Kyllos family), McAllen, Texas (Komninou and Kontos), Wilmington, Delaware (Lakerdis), Birmingham, Alabama (Thomas and Christou) and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (Zambellas). There are also entries from Castellorizians in Australia and Brazil.
It would be wonderful to know whether any members of the Forum have in their possession any other such programmes from the United States, expecially from the earlier years of the Society's existence.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 18, 2008 13:11:45 GMT 10
nicholas,
I can add only a little more...
When Nikolaos married his daughter Maria to your great grandfather, Vasilios N Zoumbatlis, on 19 April 1909, among the gifts he gave to the groom was a plot of land in Antifilo (in Asia Minor, modern Kas) which adjoined a perivoli (garden) he also owned. He also handed over considerable jewellery in the so-called 'European style', a sign perhaps of his exposure to foreign markets through his work in Suez.
I hope others have even more to add...
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 14, 2008 7:48:12 GMT 10
Not very common, but it does exist throughout the islands, especially the Dodecanese. There are equivalent names that signify one's origin from one of the islands: Roditis (Rhodes), Kypreos (Cyprus), Kritikos (Crete), Patiniotis (Patmos), Santorinios (Santorini) etc.
Once again, there is no 'correct' transliteration of a Greek name. 'Papa' was added to surnames to signify a priest's family, though it is not uncommon to see it as 'Pappa'. Both are 'correct'.
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Post by Administrator on Jun 13, 2008 7:49:39 GMT 10
The epithet "Kotis" signified that a person had his or her origins on the Dodecanese island of Kos. So, Papakotis merely means 'the priest from Kos'.
The spelling of the name in English is 'correct' in both forms: Cotis and Kotis. In the Greek language, the name can only be spelt with a 'k' because there is no equivalent of the 'c'.
Nicholas
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Post by Administrator on Jun 12, 2008 10:33:34 GMT 10
My understanding is that the name derives from a priest who was originally from Kos who migrated to Castellorizo in the mid-nineteenth century with his family. While 'Kotis' was an epithet commonly added to a surname to signify a person's place of origin (there are many such examples from the Dodecanese islands), 'Papakotis' was unique, at least on Castellorizo, and came to signify this priest's family.
There are others on this Forum who would know more of the disposition of the Papakotis family across the world. As you observe, there is a 'Cotis' family in Sydney that is directly connected to 'Papakotis'. It would be good to hear from you on your family's precise connection to the priest and to this family.
The dowry register contains only one contract that relates to the Papakotis family. This is for the marriage of Zambetta Efkleidou Papakoti, the priest's grand-daughter via his son Efkleidis, who married Diamantaris Nikolaou Antonas on 30 January 1927. There are other isolated references in the register to Papakotis family members, but no other specific contracts.
I hope others can provide more information to you.
Nicholas
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